. >> but how clear it is in the senator points out we have so much data the fbi mrs. tips like the boston marathon bombers and other. >> we cannot keep up with the people we have been told about remember the underwear bomber? his dad turned him in andy thinks of how they will go through billions of bits of information everyday? john: what is your answer? >> we're not going through these every day. the collection of the phone records have not been used for data mining but if there is a specific terrorist case we can identify to say we have information to you checked the phone records records, it is not a case to constantly data mind they are a specific uses it is a program of their kitchens would expect. no program will katchis all. i will catch every single instance of terrorism but they have an important and effective and are critical to rounding out the nation's apparatus. john: thank you congressman. coming up, libertarians are mad at me and some call me disgusting and calmly a libertarian in name only but the government intrusion i really am about the irs that has